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Overall, I thought that today went really well. The U of M staff were very impressed with how well you listened and worked during your time in the library. It seemed that some of you truly used your time wisely. Do not worry if you did not find as much information as you had hoped as we will discuss this tomorrow.
As for the ride home, you must truly begin to think about how your behaviors not only effect you but the people you are around. It is embarrasing for Mr. Pouliot and I to have to be talked to by the bus driver because you cannot sit in a seat for 45 minutes. Yes, they did not give me accurate information on the busses but that is life and if you could adapt on the way to Ann Arbor you could adapt on the way home. For people to be yelling at each other is absolutely rediculous and sad. Also, the fact that people could not wait to get off the bus by the appropriate door but open the emergency door is also disrespectful to the bus driver and to us. I should not have to hear from my bosses as to why our students cannot behave at an age appropriate level on a bus and then put into question whether or not we can go on future field trips. Writing things on windows in words and pictures is just not acceptable behavior nor is it funny in the wrong context. I expect more from each and everyone of you.
Some of you will say, "It was not me." That is the same thing the Germans and others said during World War 2when they looked the other way at the murder of 13 million innocent people. Those of you who sit by as people put things on windows that you know is not right at that time but do nothing are also responsible even if it is passive responsibility. It is time to begin thinking about who you are as an individual and how you want to be perceived not only by your peers but by others as well.
For this evening, contemplate the above with the following quote:
"How often I have found that we grow to maturity not by doing what we like, but by doing what we should. How true it is that not every 'should' is a compulsion, and not every 'like' is a high morality and true freedom."
Karl Rahner
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"How often I have found that we grow to maturity not by doing what we like, but by doing what we should. How true it is that not every 'should' is a compulsion, and not every 'like' is a high morality and true freedom."
Karl Rahner
2nd
I find this quote to be completely true. Usually we don't become mature by continuing to repeat the same immature acts day after day, even if it is what we like to do. Many times the things we like to do are not the most mature or moral things to do. Just the same, what we 'should' do is usually not the things we always want to do. However, the things we should do are really what make us mature. Getting into the habit of doing what we should do gets us in the habit of being mature. For example, not many people like doing homework, so they don't. But once they start doing homework everyday it becomes habitual, and gradually you do your homework everyday because that is what you are used to. I think that we grow in maturity as we age because as we get older we have to do more things that we 'should' do, and they become a habit, which in turn makes us more mature. I guess we just have to deal with the fact that what we like to do isn't always what we should do, and that is a part of growing up.
Honestly, I do think that some people were being disresectful on the way home from the trip. However, not everyone was. I understand that the people who saw others doing bad things should be looked at as somewhat irresponsible. However, the people who didn't see what was going on should not be getting looked down upon as one of the people who did truly watch and not say anything. I think the quote is really true. Most people like doing what they want to and that doesn't help them become more mature. A lot of the time people who do what they are asked to do and who do the "right thing" end up becoming more mature than those who rebel. However, some people like to do the "right thing" so they are becoming more mature by doing something they want to do. In most cases people who do what they should rather than do something they like to do end up becoming more mature. Some people really need to think about acting more mature, while others just need to keep doing what they are doing.
Becca Need
2nd Hour
I think we grow in maturity by doing something we should because it teaches us to grow up. It teaches us to get the job done and do it correctly. Another reason is it kinda simulates a job in the world. It makes you think about your future and whether or not you want to do and finish what is in front of you. I really think all people have a little bit of immaturity in them, but sometimes they don't realize it. The reason they may not realize it is because their having a good time and trying to be funny. Honestly, sometimes theirs a time a place to be imature, and theirs a time to grow up.
"How often I have found that we grow to maturity not by doing what we like, but by doing what we should. How true it is that not every 'should' is a compulsion, and not every 'like' is a high morality and true freedom."
Karl Rahner
I think that this blog is some what true. I believe that maturity is more of being responsible in certain situations other than doing what should be done. I dont think that to be mature you always have to do what you should do. Being a mature person is to act at a level of responsiblity and respect. I do think that to be mature you cant do what you want all the time. Usually to get things done people have to do what needs to be done, with people always doing what they want nothing would get accomplished. I do think this quote is true but I dont agree entirely.
jake
I would have to agree about how badly people behaved on the bus ride. I noticed how many times the bus driver had to look in the mirror to see what was going on it the back of the bus. I was suprised by how ticked off people got over a breeze comming in an open window. Then how certain people reacted to not want to close to window. Also, writing pictures on the window was very immuture. People who are 16 and 17 years old should have known better to not draw those types of oictures on the bus windows. Also they should have know better how to react to a disagreement. Other than that I was an ok experience. I didn't like how I couldn't find anything very easily. By the way I would have to agree with the quote too.
We grow as individuals when we learn to do the right things. It could mean calling someone out for drawing inappripriate things on windows or something of that nature. We should be at that age to where we know right from wrong and to be capable of doing the right things. Maturity means to not only be mature in your own actions, but to remind someone if their behavior is inappropriate. The ones who only sit and watch someone else doing something they know isnt right are just as immature as the person doing the wrongful deed. It should be an embarrasment for us as well because like you said today, you usually only take seniors to michigan, which means you think we are responsible enough, although we didnt prove we are with the bus ride. We were mature when we were in the library, but it suddenly went away when we got on the bus.
deets
I do agree with the quote completely. Doing what you want to do is easy and it doesn't take much out of you. You end up enjoying your work so you'll do it more effortlessly and work more hard on it. When it's something you have to do, even if you don't like it, you must make yourself do it. I think you when you have to make yourself do something you learn and grow, which often results in a growth of maturity. Often what you want to do may be the wrong thing to do and what you should do doesn't come naturally. As for the bus, I do believe we behaved badly and acted imature. I also understand that sitting around seeing stuff happen was irresponsible.
Kristen Pauly
2nd hr.
Well based off what i think your asking, i guess ill try but dont really understand.
As people grow into young adults and reach highschool, many believe they have grown mature and are based on the decisions made. Truth is, as the quote states, that in life the true and best way to mature is just to do what is asked or expected of us. For example, on the bus we are expected to be respectful and responsible kids which means we are to sit in a seat and talk quioetly during the drive. To follow this is the best way for us to mature. On the other side, we choose to do our thing and yell back and forth at eachother and be out of control. Doing this, solves no problem and gets you no were in maturity. You may not like the fact that you can not act like a 3 year old now but if you are to keep it up, you will regret it when you grow up being very immature.
conman
I believe that the quote is very true. Life is not about what we want and how we want things to go. At our age im sure we have all realized that things dont always go our way. Our parents have always told us "lifes not fair" and we have all learned that. Maturity is accepting the fact that ur not always going to get to do what you like in life. Maturity is also realizing that sometimes you have to face the facts and have to deal with bad situations. Maturity is being able to stand up and say that you have done the best you can in having to do things you didnt really enjoy having to do. While most of us at sixteen and seventeen years old arent able to say that im sure that some of us can. A good majority of us have jobs which is a sign of maturity. Im also sure there are still kids who are depending on their parents for every dime they recieve. Either way you cut it and no matter how old you are, there are always going to be those people who just dont get it and want to blame all of their problems on everybody else and always be dependant instead of independant.
I think this quote is true. most people grow to maturity by doing things they think they should be doing. When somebody is temmpted to do something, they often become more mature when they do what they think they should be doing, not doing what they want to do. "Should" i think means that when somebody does something immature, they think about what they should be doing, and that makes the person become more mature because they realize that they didnt do what they like to do. Im not to sure if im right on this quote, but to me, this quote says that if people start doing what they think they should be doing, your a more mature person than the people that do what they onlylike or want to do.
I agree with the poor behavior in the bus. It was quite hectic back there trying to get 3 people in a seat. I don't know if I would go as far as blaming everyone for causing problems, just a hand full. I did not mind the ride home and could care less about what other kids were doing. I say this because even with the few kids stepping in no one listens. In fact the kids that did step in ended up yelling and screaming at each other. I did get a good experience at U of M today. I learned a few new things, witch is always good.
I think the quote is true. I know that maturity comes with age and understanding. I know when people follow the rules and do what there suppose to they tend to be a bit mature and responsible.
I think that the quote is true. Maturity comes with age and experiences. As we get older we are going to have to come around to the fact that we need to do things because we "should", and not always for what we "like." The bus ride home was a little crazy. Although the yelling should'nt have occured, I think that the people who sat in their seats and didn't get involved in the situation were being more responsible and mature. Those who did speak up became part of the yelling situation as well. I think if we told the others to stop, then it would stir up more drama than before. The U of M trip was pretty good overall. The database usuage was confusing, but I learned some good researching techniques.
"How often I have found that we grow to maturity not by doing what we like, but by doing what we should. How true it is that not every 'should' is a compulsion, and not every 'like' is a high morality and true freedom."
Karl Rahner
This quote is something I strive to live by. Many times life isn't a popularity contest and you will have to do things that other people will not appreciate. It's making a choice; a smart and mature choice. By junior year we should all be learning from our mistakes, yes, but we should be able to make the mature decision in many situations. It takes confidence and courage to stand up to your peers. It is a life lesson and quality that makes a person a strong being. On the bus today I did not understand at all why people were yelling. It was about a window...I didn't get it at all. A situation like that should not have resulted in what did happen. I would never yell let alone swear at a teacher and if someone had the guts to do that I would think that they are trying to prove themselves in some way; the wrong way in this case. Being mature is the best way to prove yourself and people notice it the most I believe. Overall I really enjoyed today's field trip. It was great to see Michigan's campus knowing that it is one of my goals to go to college there.
Auds
All of this behavior is a domino effect. People think it is funny to do immature things because they want to show off. If people thought that those behaviors make them look better, well they are wrong. I think that if people have to make them selves look that way now, I don’t know how they expect to be accepted in the real world. All of this makes our class, as a whole, look irresponsible when there are some people in the class who don’t act in an immature way. So, for those who didn’t do anything shouldn’t be looked upon in the same way as others. What went down today on the bus was not right and shouldn’t have happened. Again it seemed like we were in second grade and everyone couldn’t just act their age. Now, this quote relates to this topic because the people on the bus acted immature because they wanted to get their point across but instead of acting as they should, they acted as they wanted. All, in all, issues on the bus should have been dealt with differently then it had.
Lauren Beattie
3rd Hour
"How often I have found that we grow to maturity not by doing what we like, but by doing what we should. How true it is that not every 'should' is a compulsion, and not every 'like' is a high morality and true freedom."
Karl Rahne
I find this quote to be very accurate. Maturity is something that is learned, and learning comes with a lot of mistakes. You don't learn from your mistakes if you just continue to repeat the same pore decisions and don't try and fix them. A lot of times doing what you like to do isn't always the most mature and adult thing to do. This goes along with the moral of what we 'should' do posed to doing what we enjoy doing. People are quick to judge and if they precive you as an immature person they are unlikely to give you the time of day. The will most likely find you as annoying and childish and will talk porly about you when you are not around to hear. The things that we should do are normally those that make us more mature and helps us learn to fit into everyday society. It help if you create a routine, which helps you become more strict with your time. Maturity is part of growing up and learning how to manage yourself. But I guess that along with age comes maturity and for the most part what we like doing isn't always going to happen because in life things are not always fare and we have to deal with things we don't enjoy doing.
John McLean
2nd hour
I believe this quote is very true. As we grow into adulthood we become more mature. We learn to accept that there are things that should be done because they benefit us in the long run. There are always going to be many things that we don't like to do, but we should do; Ex. shovel 6 inches of snow... even though I don't like shoveling, I should get out there and shovel (which I did). The "shoulds" will always outnumber the "like's". Maturity is accepting that there are going to be things that you don't like to do, but by doing them you are being responsible. We don't always compulsively do something that we should; we do it because it needs to be done. Doing what you like is easy and something you should do takes more effort because basically it was not your choice.
I completly agree with this quote. Its not always the things that we "want" to do, that make us more mature. Its sometimes the things that we "should" do, to become more mature. You are not getting more mature by doing the same immature acts everyday. Its the things that you are forced to do, that make you more mature. Doing things that are out of your comfort zone make you a more mature and better person. For example, people can sit everyday in class and do nothing and have no effort. But, after awhile they start to try and participate in class more. Overtime, this becomes a habit and a routine. Before you know it, little by little they are becoming more mature.
"How often I have found that we grow to maturity not by doing what we like, but by doing what we should. How true it is that not every 'should' is a compulsion, and not every 'like' is a high morality and true freedom."
Karl Rahner
This quote is utterly and completely true in my opinion. People don't mature by doing what they want. If people did what they wanted to all the time we'd have a bunch of dumb butts running around acting like 3-year olds. To become a mature person you have to start doing what you should do instead of what you want to do. Like if someone starts to write or draw on a window and you think "I wanna do that." Instead of actually doing it you should figure out that that's childish and not do it, and maybe stop the person that started drawing/writing in the first place. Just tell him/her that it's not right and to stop. It's a hard concept, but I think we all have the ability to do the right thing in that kind of situation.
James Richardson
3rd hour
I agree that the acts of many of the kids on the bus today was rude and uncalled for. For the few of us at the front of the bus, I honestly don't even really know what completely was going on, all I could hear was a lot of yelling and arguing. For the short bus ride we had, I thought it really wasn't that terrible sitting three to a seat. Anyways, growing in maturity usually occurs when we do what probably doesn't come naturally to us. It is generally doing what is right rather than what is fun or comfortable for us to do. What the quote is saying is that many of the things we should do are not compulsions. It takes much more to do the right thing many times than it does to do what is easiest or the most fun. Just the same, not everything we like is always of high morality. Many people like to go out and smoke weed but I wouldn't consider that something of high morality. I've turned down people who asked me to smoke weed, and even though they were decent friends, my more mature decision led to one of them not smoking weed. The more we make tough decisions and do the right thing, the more we mature.
This quote means that as we grow we have to do what is right and appropriate at the moment. I believe that this quote is entirely true. It also means that you can't just go through life doing the same things all the time because you want to. It more or less shapes you as an individual and forces you to become more mature in your life. Everyone has things they don't like to do, including me, but those are the things that prove we are mature. When we can make it throught these grusome things even if they are tough, we find a piece of ourselves and it prepares us for the real world. This relates to today because many people on the bus were making those decisions to do what they want and not what is right. If they continue to do this, they will never become mature. I myslelf am to blame as well because I saw people doing it and I didn't stop them, even though I would never think of doing it myself. I wish more people would be patient and make the right choices. When they get to college and the real world, they will be screwed if the don't become more mature (including me).
The behavior on the bus did get out of control but it’s a window! It was stupid and uncalled for. The people who were complaining could have asked nice, not yelled. As for the writing on the window, I don’t see it as being immature because I was one of the people that did it. I was just plain bored. It wasn’t meant for anyone. I was bored. I believe that the quote is true. We grow form our mistakes as well form others. We have to go threw situations in order to grow form them.
I think this quote is saying a bunch of things. IK think the main point is that people mature by what they do. We all go through life doing a lot of things we dont want too. It is what we take from those expireineces that make us grow. For instance, i think seeing 9/11 made us all more mature. Us kids were in the 3rd grade and didnt know a whole lot about anything. That event to me made me realize the tradegy of the world. Also, it made me realize how lucky i am to be where i am. There is not second chances in life. You just have to learn from things.
blazn
2nd
"How often I have found that we grow to maturity not by doing what we like, but by doing what we should. How true it is that not every 'should' is a compulsion, and not every 'like' is a high morality and true freedom."
Karl Rahner
This quote is saying that people mature from doing something that they deep down know is right, but may not really like or want to do. Sometimes in life people come across situations when they know something should be done, but don't want to be the person to deal with it, or just don't want to. When it comes down to it, mature people do what they should do in order to accomplish something. If they didn't nothing would get done, and what would they learn from it? The whole bus issue ties in very well with the quote. If people feel the need to do something that they know is wrong and will cause chaos or complications, a mature person would end up not doing them, even if they really wanted to. A very immature person would do whatever it was they wanted to without regard of the consequences or even if they knew it was wrong. You could say that someone doing what they wanted to would be a "true freedom," but what it comes down to is maturity. Even though it is a "freedom," you need to be mature enough to know that it is wrong and shouldn't do it. People need to grow up. If you think about it, the whole ordeal wasn't even that important or big. It could have all been avoided if people would just suck it up, and do what they had to do. I was really dissapointed in what happened, I didn't catch all of it but enough to know what happened I suppose. The saddest part is that I do not think the people who need to learn from this did today. Another part of growing up is learning from mistakes, accepting the truth, and doing what you deep down know is right, not what you necesarily want to do.
Megan Kastelen
3rd hour
I think this quote is very true and is a big thing that teenagers struggle with today. Part of growing up is learning to make the right choices, which are sometimes different than what sounds like a fun idea at the time. The right choice can come so easily sometimes, but other times it is very difficult and we often make the wrong choices. For example, hanging out with friends or doing homework. Staying home and doing homework would be the right choice but a lot of teenagers would pick the opposite because it is what they want at the time. It takes a mature person to think about how things will play out and how it will affect them in the future. That all comes with maturity and it is important for us to get there in time by making good choices early on in life and staying on the right path.
"How often I have found that we grow to maturity not by doing what we like, but by doing what we should. How true it is that not every 'should' is a compulsion, and not every 'like' is a high morality and true freedom." by Karl Rahner reminds me of myself in a way. I always seem to do what i want instead of what i should. I actually got in trouble for this on our day off. I know what is wrong and right so when it comes down to it, i can make the right decision because of maturity. When you do more of what you should and put your "likes" behind me, i get more accomplished. I think alot of times you get caught up in the moment and just think of what is happening right that minute, not the outcome of things. I apologize for the bus ride home, as i do realize how it could be embarassing for you and mr. pouliot. I know as juniors we should have behaved more mature and we took advantage of the rare ocassion of us going on a field trip.
rachel clink
I believe that this quote is true. I have found that a lot of teenagers who are mature aren't really the ones who cause trouble. This is because they do what they are told to do, what is expected of them, as well as, doing what they should do for the class. Although we may not like what we are told to do, that's part of life, we just have to live with it. As for what happened on the bus today, it was really unbelievable. However, I must say it wasn't everyone who was being disrespectful. Unfortunately, I was sitting near the back, and I saw what was happening, and a few students in the back literally looked like they wanted to hop out the window and get away from everything. Most of us are 16, some may be 17, I don't think this is the type of behavior that we should be having, especially since we are going to college in less than 2 years. I felt everything got blown out of proportion, however I believe it is the maturity in some people. We all grow at different rates and some people still have grown into a full maturity yet. This is how today on the bus relates to this quote.
Alanna Nagi
2nd hour
i kno exacly wat this quote must mean, it means that we grow in maturity by making right choices instead of haveng fun for example should i do my project or hang out with my freinds (yea i made the wrong one) but other than that im very mature like i was behaved on the bus while everyone in the back were acting like a bunch of jackasses.but whatever if thats what they like to do. i seriosly kno a 5-year old whos more mature than they are.....no joke...
"How often I have found that we grow to maturity not by doing what we like, but by doing what we should. How true it is that not every 'should' is a compulsion, and not every 'like' is a high morality and true freedom."
Karl Rahner
To me this quote is saying that in order to grow as a person we need to step up to our responsibilities. It also says that we can not always do what we want, but to do what we are supposed to do. I think that to mature, one must put aside what they want for what they need. Just because I want to sleep in class does not mean I should. I should learn what I am being taught to better myself. I want people to see me as a respectful, nice, and smart. I do not want people to think I am lazy and stupid. As we mature we can make better decisions for ourselves so we do not have to rely on help. People need to realize that not everything in life is going to go the way you want it to be. Life is bitter-sweet, meaning it has its good and bad times and we just need to learn how to get through the bad and savor the good.
People don't grow up by continuing to act like children. They grow up when they realize how to pick their battles. On the bus today, is definitly a time when people picked the wrong battle. It was a pointless argument, and some kids got heated over an open window. The whole situation could have been handled differently if others would've been mature and asked nicely. People acted disrespectfully, and probably ruined things for the rest of us who were behaving. Yet, we are all pretty responsible because none of us stepped up to say, "Hey, back up for a second and ask yourself if this is worth the fuss." No one did that, and so in a sense we are all reponsible for what happened. It's called being guilty by association; we were there, we witnessed it happened, and did nothing to stop it. So I suppose we all ruined the trip for eachother.
Sam Tedder
I think this quote is very true. We usually don't become mature by continuing to repeat the same immature acts. Even if that's something we are used to doing. Most people like doing what they want to and that doesn't help them become a mature person. Most of the time people who do what they are asked to do end up becoming more mature than those who rebel all the time. As of today i thought it went good, but yes the bus ride home was embarrassing that people acted the way they did. We are in high school we are not supposed to be acting like that in public.
"How often I have found that we grow to maturity not by doing what we like, but by doing what we should. How true it is that not every 'should' is a compulsion, and not every 'like' is a high morality and true freedom."
Karl Rahner
I happen to agree strongly with this quote. I think that every situation makes us grow more mature every time, depending on the way we took care of it . For example, on the bus ride home today I did get an attitude with people, and did express myself in an imature way. I would also like to apologize to Mr. Kay for the way i acted on the bus and for giving you such a hard time about the window. You didn't do anything to deserve it and Im sorry for doing that. I would also like to apologize to anyone that i annoyed for complaining so much. I have defenatly learned from this experience, I learned that, their may be people in your life that you may not get along with, but thats life, and i have to deal with it. I also learned that, I shouldnt let people get the best of me and that it's better to just keep your mouth closed and let the otheres look imature. As for the over all field trip I did evjoy going. I would like to go back and do some more research on my paper there.
The way I see this quote is that we do what we want and not what we should be doing. Which when we do what we should we begin to mature more. But I believe in mistakes, I think you learn from your mistakes. I know I wont like everything I go through in life. I have to learn how to deal with things more maturely. But let me just say this, you as a person can only take so much. I lost my temper yes, but I DONT let people walk all over me. I will not apologize for yelling at the people I did because I feel they deserved what they got. They should have thought not only about themselves but for the people who were sitting three to a seat. It was hot on the bus and we just wanted the window open a little bit. Not like it was really hurting them. Which everyone in the back of the bus was sitting mostly two too a seat so I guess they couldn't really understand how we felt. I knew no one else was going to stand up and say something so I did. I found it completely ridiculous about how inconsiderate they were being. So sorry that we have feelings too. Anyways, to wrap this up I would like to apologize for my language. But that's all I'm apologizing for because I was just standing up for myself. :)
I think that this quote is very true. We as young adults are taught by parents and people in the community to make you a better person. As children i was taught that every thing we do there is only 4 ways it can end up, GOOD,BAD,RIGHT and WRONG. When making decisions these are things you must think about. For instance if i choose to write something funny on the bus window it may be a good decision because it makes others laugh but its also a wrong decision because it may not be appropriate. Furthermore i apologize for exiting the bus through the back doors. I often exit the bus this way for sporting events. I now realize we should have asked before exiting in this rude fashion. I would also like to make a comment about the drawings, You Mr. Kay say it is not funny but you were the one cracking jokes about it towards a student while we were riding the bus. I believe this would make you a hypocrite. Lastly I would like to add that i had alot of fun on this field trip and got a good portion of research done.
taylor wattles
"How often I have found that we grow to maturity not by doing what we like, but by doing what we should. How true it is that not every 'should' is a compulsion, and not every 'like' is a high morality and true freedom."
Karl Rahner
Well, on the bus ride today many people, including me, did what they wanted to do. That would be yelling to get the window put up. What they should have done would have been ask her nicely to put her window up and then when she said no ask you about it. Instead we just did more of what we wanted to do such as putting all our windows down and yelling more. This shows that all of us acted immaturley on the bus today. Also, we all acted immaturley by not trying to compromise. By all of us i am including the one with the window down. We had a great day acting mature, most of us, at the college library and then got right back to the immaturity on the bus. Hopefully next time we take a field trip the bus ride can go more smoothly and we can learn to compromise, or the weather will be nicer and we wont be 3 to a seat.
I think that this quote is completely true. In order to grow in maturity we must do stuff that we wont always want to do. We have to do whats right and not was everyone else think is "cool". Also doing what you want to do is so easy. By doing whats right you could be challenging yourself to become a better person. i think the last part of the quote is saying that by doing what is right you can experience true freedom. I think that by doing whats right you can get an overwhelming peace, but you have to try doing what rights before you can figure that out.
I believe this quote is very true. maturity is taking responsibility, keeping your word and receiving the repercussions that you have created for yourself. Not may people can agree to enjoying homework or passing up spending time with your friends to go to a prior commitment, but it is part of maturing. it is easy to do something you like even though it may not be beneficial to you. however it is harder to do something that will help you that you'd rather not do. its definitely not easy to be responsible. there are so many temptations that advocate us to abandon our responsibility. but being able to do what you need to do rather than what you want is extremely mature. especially later in life when we have the choice between going to work and getting paid rather than taking a day off, it can sometime become a need to go to work and get paid, rather than just responsibility. i think maturity grows with time and experience as i am still maturing.
It was absolutely unacceptable about the way our class had acted on the way back home. It was rude, disrespectful, distasteful, immature, irresponsible, etc, etc, etc. The noise produced by this class was unbearable. I don't know how the class "changed" on the way home in that we suddenly became packed closer together. I don't care if we have to sit closer together; it wouldn't have made us "homosexual" or "whatever else." The "window down act" was immature, and meant that everybody had to live with a cold bus most of the way back to Lakeland. Also, drawing pictures on the windows is for five year olds, not "adults." I am surprised at the amount of patience that the bus driver had with our class. Not ONCE did she do anything wrong. Yet, she was still one of the primary targets of the complaining, moaning, groaning, screaming, etc from our class. I wish that she would have been aloud to kick anyone off that bus that she wanted to ("Find a taxi"). I would have had enough room to lay down :(. I really hope that this class will never have the privilege of going to anywhere on a field trip again. I don't care if that includes me as well. There had to be a ton of planning to make this field trip a reality. The amount of time that Mr. Kay put into this was worth more than the time he sat babysitting our class. To whoever made the comment "GET ANOTHER BUS!" when the bus was so full, I say, be happy with spending twice as much to go on this field trip. The bus ride isn't free. I figured that $10 to go to Ann Arbor, look at books, learn a bit, and go back to Lakeland was a bargain. If I were Mr. Kay or Mr. Pouliot, I would be embarrassed to call this my class.
The quote is something that I agree with. We can't always do what we like, and be mature. We have responsibilities. To mature, we must do things that we don't like to do. I however can't say that it would have been very easy for one of the "It was not me" people to intervene and say "Hey, don't draw a * on the window!" It's just not possible for all of us to keep an eye on each other so that they don't do something stupid.
John Kent
2-11-10
I really think that Mr. Kay is right. A group of us were really acting immature on the way home. I don’t understand how we were able to go to the Library mature and come back immature. I know that most of the class behaved properly like mature people should. The others really need to think before they act. An example is when some people were hot they put the window down when it is below freezing and we are going 60 mph down the road. A real mature person would of just taken of their coat. Going out the emergency exit is a write up if I remember right and we were not going to miss the bus if you did not get out right then. I know that we need to get our act together for the next field trip. The people that acted up did what they pleased. They showed no maturity. The rest of us did the right thing and did not caused any trouble. Because by the way the immature people acted I do not blame Mr. Kay for not wanting to do another fieldtrip.
People dont mature when they are doing what they normally do. It is when they step outside the comfort zone and do things that they normally wouldnt. We grow when we try new things. Therefore it stands to reason that our maturity grows when we try new things. Like standing up to our peers when they are doing something we know is wrong. A lot of the time, the things we should do are things we dont want to do. For example, doing your chores or standing up to a friend. On the flip side, not everything we want to do is something we should do. We may want to ditch school and go with friends to the movies. But its wrong. Its not something you should do. Life is full of choices that we are required to make. Experiences are what help us to make the correct choice.
I would also like to say something else. The way people acted today was unacceptable. I dont care who the hell you think you are, but you have no right to treat someone who gets up every morning to try and teach you something in that manner. There are a lot of people in this world who are assholes and dont necessarily deserve respect. Mr. Kay and Mr. Pouliot are not those people. The way people acted was unacceptable ad disrespectful. It was rude and completely unnesecsary. They were completely embarrased and ashamed of some of the students in our class today and I cannot blame them. I was embarrased to be sitting up front and watch it happen. I was embarrased to have to watch them apologize to the bus driver. They deserve so much more respect then they got today and I am disappointed in so many people who instead of realizing that it is your lazy ass fault, decide to put it off on the teachers. Grow Up!
I find this quote to be completely true and most likely applies to everyone's lives. Nobody becomes mature by repeating the same immature and kidlike behaviors. Most of the time kids are very immature. It doesn't always apply to everyone, but it does apply to most people. I feel that once people start to mature they will realize that all the behaviors that they made when they were younger were just stupid and useless. All people will mature at one point, it is up to them to decide when however. I feel that kids mature when they notice that other kids are getting irritated by them. They follow everyone by starting to act more mature when they notice everyone else is.
Alec Shoems 3rd Hour
"How often I have found that we grow to maturity not by doing what we like, but by doing what we should. How true it is that not every 'should' is a compulsion, and not every 'like' is a high morality and true freedom."
Karl Rahner
This quote means that what we like might not be the right thing. When it says by doing what we should, this means standing up and putting a stop to something thats pointless, like whining about some window thats down, and causing a huge scene. Or in the case of WW2, when the germans were making genocide by killing millions and millions of jews and turning their head, and making it seem right, when its not. When the Americans liberated the concentration camps is an example of doing what we "should" do in a situation where somebody, or people are doing something they or their leader likes, and nobody is standing up to them to tell them its not right and to make them stop. Sometime when people are doing something they like and bystanders dont stand up to tell them to stop and that its not right is because they know itll cause a bigger, unecessary scene, and it wouldnt help the problem at all because the other person would either, one be thinking theyre doing the right thing, or theyre just trying to be "cool" and get attention.
I believe this qoute is true. Most people will do what they want, but they are not growing in maturity. If they do what is responsible, then they will become more mature. It, for the most part, demonstrates the bus ride home today. I would not go as far to say that everybody was acting immature, I actually completely disagree with you, but a handfull. I think it was stupid how everybody was complaining about a window being down half way. Yes, I sort of get it that some of you asked nicely for it to be put up, and instead it ended up being open all the way. The swearing and wriying/drawing on the windows is below our age level. I do not know why there were people doing it, for the most part it was uncalled for. But all in all I think today went very well.
I feel like this quote is extreamly true. People grow into maturity as they grow up. Not everyone likes to me mature, becuase most of the times its not the fun way to go. But, as you grow up you realize what you 'should do' rather than what you 'want' to do. There has been many times in my life where I just want to do something that I know is wrong and immature but I stop myself and realize that I really should not do that. I feel like everyone has their moments of immaturity, no one is ever completely mature, but it is when you decide to be immature and wheather it is the right time or place to do it. Another example of doing the mature thing because you should rather than want is homework. Everyday when I come hom from school, I dont want to sit down and do homework, but I know I should in order to have a good future. And that has always been my attitude towards it and now doing homework after school is just a routine thing to me.
Hannah Aittama
2nd Hour
This quote is very true. Of course what we like doing, is not always going to be the right thing to do. And doing the right thing, is not always the thing we like to do. We have to deal with this in balance though. As some of my other classmates have stated, there are times to act mature and there are certain times when maybe you dont need to act as mature. Today on the bus, I definitely think that the girls were out of hand. Girls seem to turn anything they can into a bitching match. It was over a window...I really cannot wait until girls who think they're the shit finally get to college, where there might not be a teacher watching their backs all the time, and finally get put in their place. I also have to agree with wattles though, if you thought the drawing was immature, then why were you cracking jokes about it?
i Think in this case ut not in all cases, some people can not be controled. I felt like i was in danger at one point and if i did like you said to sa something to them about drwawrings stuff on the windows i probly would have got slapped, or punched. Some poeple just have to big of an ego to deal with. THis quote relates directly to what happend on the bus. We may not want to be quite and proper but we should. Once we do those things enough it will start to sink in and we will become more mature. I think certain individuals in our class have a lot of growing about to do. Rather it be learning that the world doesnt revolve around you or learning how to be kind and respect others. YOu may be cold, the other person may be warm, not everything is all about YOU. Doing things you should do may take a little more work but it will pay off in the end.
Zack RUffin
"How often I have found that we grow to maturity not by doing what we like, but by doing what we should. How true it is that not every 'should' is a compulsion, and not every 'like' is a high morality and true freedom."
I think this quote applys to life all the time. example on the bus when someone had their window down. by that person being the only one who wanted the window down she did what she wanted. Its the middle of fricken winter the window did not to be down the whole entire bus wanted it up and when the first time we asked her nicely to put it up she put it down and said your welcome. If she would of just put it up she would have been very mature but sense she kept it down she took the immature road. I think people need to suck up their pride and do whats right not what makes them look "good" to their friends. "Its hott" boohoo take your coats off.
"How often I have found that we grow to maturity not by doing what we like, but by doing what we should. How true it is that not every 'should' is a compulsion, and not every 'like' is a high morality and true freedom."
Karl Rahner
I think quote is completely true in this situation. I did not see anyone writing on the window but i heard and contributed to asking brittany to close the window. She did what she wanted instead of what was right. I understand that she was hot, but her and her friends had big winter coats on. i was also sitting three to a seat and although it was uncomfortable i was fine. I honestly think i had no part in the imaturity. Chris loeder had to sit three to a seat and he looked very incomfortable so me and conner decided conner would sit with me and jessica so chris could sit confortabley with on other person. I thought i was very mature on the bus. I actually thought we all were, granted the kids who were drawing shit, until the window situation. Everyone asked her nicely because they were freezing. I had forgot my coat like a lot of people, and not only was i cold with the windows up, my pants were wet which made it worse. When people asked her nicely she just ignored them. Then in spite of everyone she pulled the window all the way down which is when people started getting really mad. In my opinion this whole blowup was because of one person. at first unintentional but in the end she was doing it to piss everyone off. I'm sorry if this blog "hates on" brittany but this was uneeded. Also i read a couple of the blogs and it seems like some guys are putting all the blame on us girls, saying we made a big deal about but a lot of the guys were bitching too. Lastly i want to talk about most of the people in the front of the bus who think we were being immature. We were in the back and the wind goes towards the back. When it is 20 degrees outside and you're on a highway do you sit with your window open, with the below zero wind blowing in your face? Its wonderfullllllll.
my computer crashed, so my blogs may be a day late.
This quote couldnt be any more true because there are some people that believe in what they like to do is always the mature thing but in reality it makes them look like a dumbass. Maturity is based on what should be done and to most people you will talk to it is not their first instincted. As we grow older we need to start taking responsibility and gaining maturity instead of fighting over if the window is down. The argument on the bus was rediculous because last time i checked we were Juniors at Lakeland High School, not 5th graders at Brooks or Lakewood or Oxbow or any elementary school around the world.
Will Michaels 2nd hour
I agree whole heartedly with this quote. Not everyone wants to do something that their supposed to. It's the kid inside of us. The instinct to rebel against what we are supposed to do. We grow more mature when we make a decision that goes against what we want to do. Sucking it up, moving forward, and letting it go make us into a stronger person. It makes us more capable of dealing with situations that are by far more important. The window situation in my opinon was rediculous also. Things like that need to just be let go. After a day like the one we had, something so small shouldn't ruin it. The visit to U of M was an experience that I appreciate you and Mr. Poliout giving to our class.
"How often I have found that we grow to maturity not by doing what we like, but by doing what we should. How true it is that not every 'should' is a compulsion, and not every 'like' is a high morality and true freedom."
Karl Rahner
The above quote describes that we shouldnt always fallow what we see others doing or what we find easy and fun. Doing what is right is not always easy, and doing what is eays isnt always fun. What went down on the bus was really funny in the moment, but i toatly get how that would put you and mr. pouliot in a really shitty position with your boss and the bus driver. I really appreciate that you and mr. pouliot took the time to plan a field trip for 60 kids to a high end school. I feel like we all really need to just grow up a little and start acting like mature young adults.
This quote is perfect for the bus situation, which I'm guessing is why you chose it. I feel that we do mature by doing things that we know are right. Everything in life isnt about yourself, and sometimes doing things we dont want to do is the right thing. As far as on the bus, alot of people were sitting three to a seat and no one else was complaining. The pictures on the windows I dont think were a big deal. People were probably just getting bored, even though it was only a 45 minute ride. I know that I have matured by doing things that are right. That is when you know you have grown up is when you start doing things for other people instead of just for yourself. There is always going to be things in life that you dont want to do. That is part of growing up. Everyone does things they dont want to do.
Cody K
I know this was late but I didnt know it was a mandatory blog. I didnt check it because I didnt plan on doing it. I did monday and tuesday and was going to do friday as well.
***This is late because I had no idea it was mandatory, you said we only had to do three so because I did Monday and Tues, I figured I'd just do Friday's blog**
"How often I have found that we grow to maturity not by doing what we like, but by doing what we should. How true it is that not every 'should' is a compulsion, and not every 'like' is a high morality and true freedom."
Karl Rahner
This quote can be perceived in many different ways from many angles. In my opinion, I believe that the quote is reminding us that in life, we can not always take the liberty of doing whatever we want all of the time. People who are accustomed to living lives where they do what ever tickles their fancy, end up living less mature lives. This is in comparison to those who make decisions based on what they need to do, not necessarily what they want to do. I agree with this quote because I have already learned that what I would like to do and what I should do are very different and they have even more different outcomes. For instance, take my math homework, I hate it and I never would choose to do it for fun. However, I know that I should do it so therefore I do and the outcome of me finishing my homework is a good grade in the class. Immature students who choose to blow off their homework and do what they want tend to fail in the class, in school, and likely in life.
This quote is very true, well I think. We dont mature by doing the same exact things over and over again. We mature by fixing our mistakes. Not doing it over and over again. You should learn and know that if what your doing isnt right, that you shouldnt do it. What we should be doing, most likely isnt going to be what we wanna do. Its going to be the complete opposite, even though it might be immature. We mature as we grow older, we learn right from wrong, and just realize that the shit we do is stupid!
This quote means that were not always going to like what we should do but to be mature you sometimes have to do these things. Maturity is being able to look at right and wrong and even though not always easy, be able to do the right thing. I do not always chose the most mature way to deal with things, however I think that is part of learning. After sixteen years of living though, I do believe that people should be past writing on windows, and yelling on a field trip. Maturity is something that people gain through years of living. What happened on the bus showed that maybe we were not ready to go on a field trip in such a large group. Im not proud of how we acted at all. Even though I was not personally part of the acts that went on, im still responsible. Im responsible because I did nothing to stop it, and being mature is being able to reconize wrong and try to stop it.
Mr, Kay I forgot to talk to you about it friday because I came in late, but my our internet has been on and off since monday. So I only had completed one of the blogs, before today. Im sorry I forgot to tell you, We just had a guy come out last night to fix it. So again I am sorry.
Taylor Dieck
2nd hr.
"How often I have found that we grow to maturity not by doing what we like, but by doing what we should. How true it is that not every 'should' is a compulsion, and not every 'like' is a high morality and true freedom."
Karl Rahner
This quote is an excellent example of teenage life. In this quote we see that we cannot grow as a person by messing up all the time. We see so often how kids make mistakes and then think they will still miraculously get better. It doesnt work like that. I think that the right thing to do, isnt always the easiest thats why this happens. On our bus there was people who acted wrongly and bystanders. Both are to be held accountable for the problem. If someone would have stepped up and said shut up and sit down, then it would have maken the whole situation alot better.
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