Friday, January 15, 2010

Day 24

Again, nice job by the groups today. For this evenings blog, please choose from one of the following:

One of the educational issues that was not touched on today was what happened to post high school education after the revolution occurred in 1979-1980. Please explain the effect on this level of learning and how it may have effected Iranian society as a whole. How would you feel if this happened in this country and how could it effect your whole future?

Or

Think about the idea of Persepolis and why people are so affected by the actions of the Islamic Revolution. Is this the same or different than if this happened in the United States? Why or why not? Is there a greater sense of patriotism in Iran than in the United States? Why or why not? What is your personal view on patriotism and how do you incorporate it in your life?

44 comments:

!!!!!!TAYLOR SWIFT IS SO HOTT!!!!!! said...

Well i will do the second one. The people are so affected by the actions of the islamic revolution becuase they are so in volved with the gov. The gov also is very forcful and acts directly with the people. I think it is different in the United States. The gov isnt as involved with the people. Instead the people are more involved with the gov. Well i dont really know how much patriotism iran has cuz im not there. According to the book iranian's are very patriotism,well some anyway. I think patriotism is not just love for your country but how you show it. I really dont incorperate it but i do stand for the national anthem and stuff like that.
Zakc Ruffin

Becca said...

If there were to be a new revolution in the United States I think that people would be greatly affected like in Iran. I think this because when people are put in a revolution, there are going to be different opinions on the revolution. People are going to stand up for what they think is right, and this could cause violence, like it did in Iran. No, I don't think that there is greater patriotism in Iran than the United States. If the United States were to go through a new revolution, I bet that our people would be just as patriotic. I feel that partiotism is extremely important. People should be proud of their country, and they should support those who fight for our country as well. I incorporate patriotism in my life by standing up for the national athem, and supporting our troops.

Becca Need
3rd Hour

Mike said...

In Persepolis all of the universities were shut down. She didn't really go over how it affected people besides the fact that they didn't have any open universities. If something like this were to happen in the United States, what would we do? We depend on college to get us to where we need to be to sustain a "normal" life style. It's a crucial step in obtaining the American dream. We would probably lip into a state of panic, for fear of our futures. Also, we will probably end up just like Iran and send off Martyrs and Soldiers. We would ultimately break out in civil war.

Audrey Beaumarchais said...

If the school system is our country changed a lot would confuse me. It for sure effected the learning of the young children of that time because they were so accustomed to the way they had been learning that it was difficult to adapt to the new way. Children retain information at an easier pace. Because the government was so prominent on teaching them that the Shah was chosen by God the children were left confused when the structure was changed to the complete opposite of their prior teachings. If this happened in the United States my life would be a whole lot different. I wouldn't know what to believe and I feel like I would have to think more for myself. I would be confused as well. It would alter my life as I know it.

Audrey

Wilbur2381 said...

The people of Iran are so affected by the Islamic Revolution because they cannot escape it. It is everywhere throughout the middle east because of the dictators and leaders who believe in absolutism. If this were to occur in the United States, it would be totally different because of the type of government we have and all the rules in place for all who are apart of the government. I dont believe either country has more partiotism toward their country so i think that it is a push. You really cannot judge a country on how much patriotism they have, for example the U.S after 9/11. People say that 9/11 is another event that completed our nation but that was one day. But Iran was at war for years and they perservered and made it through all that fighting. I think that patriotism is how much love you have for your country. Some people have amazing love for their country but others dont for some reason. I incorperate it almost everytime i watch the start of an athletic event and they do the national anthem. Even though im hundreds of miles away i still take off my hat and honor my country.

Will Michaels 2nd hour

Clare Pathe said...

For today, i will choose the second one. I think that if there were a islamic revolution in the United States we would be as greatly affected as they were in Iran. I think that we would react in the same way. People would either be protesting their believes, or would flee the country. People would stand up for what they think is right, which would cause lots of violence and so on. No, i dont think there is a greater sense of patriotism in Iran than in the United States. I feel that we are as devoted to our country as much as Iran was. My view on patriotism is that it is very important. I feel that you should fight for your country and be proud of it. I incorporate patriotism in my life by supporting the troops in Iraq and standing up for the national anthem, etc.

Tyler McLeod said...

After the Islamic Revolution the country's universities were closed. The universities gradually reopened between 1982 & 1983. While they were closed, a committee investigated professors & teachers. They dismissed those that believed in marxism & liberalism. Post high school education was very important after the revolution; and with the universities being closed down, the students education was placed on hold. The Iranian societies education suffered because these students couldn't move on with their studies. Iran's people were not able to contribute to making their country better at that time. I would be angry if this happened in our country. This would effect my future because I wouldn't be able to pursue my educational goals to obtain a good job & make a difference in our society. Those years taken away from the students after the Islamic Revolution were years that could have provided many more educated people to help in rebuilding their country.

Katlyn said...

I think that if there were a revolution in the US today everyone would be affected greatly. If theres a revolution everyone will have different oppinions. Some people will agree with them others will not. A revolution here would cause violence because everyone would want to stand up for what they think is right. Alot of people would disagree on alot of things. I think that there is the same amount of partiatism in the US then there was in the Iran. People here love their counry just as much as they do. Patriotism is something everyone should have, they should love their country and stand up for it. I incorporate patriotism into my own life by supporting my country and lovr my country.

Katlyn Twigg 2nd HOur

Megan said...

If what happened in Persepolis, happened in the United States, I think there would be 1o times the chaos. First of all, our government is built around natural rights and freedoms. If these were taken away I am pretty sure everyone in the country would revolt. No one would follow the rules that were given in Iran. There is too much diversity in the United States. I think that for the most part, there is the same amount of patriotism in Iran as there is in the United States. Because of the way our country is set up, we are encouraged to fight against something that is corrupt or unjust in our government. We are allowed to stand up for what we believe in, and if so change our government if it isn't working. If religion started to get majorly involved in our government, people would be outraged. Patriotism is when you love your country and its citizens. You would want the best form of government and life for the people in your country. A patriotic person would stand up for what is right and, if needed, change their coumtry and government. Its not all about tradition. Sometimes drastic changes needed to be made to suit the times. It may have been good back then, but now we have changed and so should our government. Someone patriotic would want to fight for their country. If that means by demonstrating or protesting, or fighting in a war, the want to keep and change your country would still be there.

Megan Kastelen
2nd hour

Conner said...

I believe that if a revolution were to take place here in america that it would have just as big of an impact as it did to the islamics. Here in america, i feel we carry much more care to everything that takes place than would the islamics. Though many parents did keep an eye on the things there children did, i feel here in america parents would over inforce every rule possible to keep all children safe. Aside from parental thoughts, i feel our government would also crack down on every thing done and believe we may even start to witness things as school closings. Patriotsim is largly loved in the united states and there is nothing more sad than to see one of our soldiars die. Though we send our men into battle to fight, we also try protecting our men as much as possible and do not force them to do anything that may seriously jeprodize their lives. For example, many people felt in the islamic war that it was alright to force men into suicide bombings or try to do anything stupid. Personallyi feel that the true definition of patriosim is the sence of ones love for there country and the willing to do what ever it takes for his/her nation. In my life, i am not part of the army or fight in battles but pay my patriotic, respectic part and show my love for the nation i live in.

conman

kurtis said...

ok im doing the second onewell the revolution effected the ppl in many ways like the women all had to were veils, they werent allowed to party the schools werer really strict basicly there life was dull. changes have also occured in the united states like the ending of slavery, and there was a time in like the 1800s were alchol was illeigal

Cody Kabisa said...

All the Universities were shut down because of the gov't. The gov't didnt want these schools to be teaching students false information about the war and the Shah. I think this affected the Iranian society in a couple ways. First, there was a 1-2 year period were there were no schools open. School is needed for kids at that age because thats when they start to develop. If this happened in our country my first reaction would be happyness. It would be sweet at first to not have school but then it would suck inthe long run. No college means not being able to fulfill your dreams and goals. You would be stuck with a meteokre job for your whole life.

Jamie Diehr said...

People are so effected by the actions of the Islamic Revolution because it changed their lives, and not for the better. People were tramatized and even killed becuase of theses actions. This is the same if it would have happend in the United States. If our government all of the sudden started to change things and force that kind of situations on us, things would be caos. Also if there was a war going on, we could be living in danger and be afraid of living a normal life. Our normal life wouldn't be normal anymore. I wouldn't say that Iran has greater paitriotism than the United States has because we have never lived in situations like the Iranians had. If we were under the same circumstances as Iran, I would have alot of Patriotism. I personally believe that our countrys values are somewhat stronger than Irans was during the war. I don't think that America would let these unrealistic changes and unfair justice occur.

Sean said...

College after highschool is probably the most important years of school to attend. Its a time to persue a career, and to have enjpy new experiences. When the universities were shutdown, it was like seeing Irans future go down the drain. Students attending college are the future of a society, and if colleges are shut down, the future of the society isnt looking bright. If universities in the US were closed, in a way, time would stop. I would feel as if the success of the US would reach its peak. Getting a full time job would be difficult without a college education.

deets

kristen said...

People are so affected by the actions of the Islamic Revolution because it was changing their life style. They were being forced to do stuff that they didn't want to do. For example, how they dressed, what they said, and how they acted. This was very different then the American Revolution because we weren't makeing anybody change their ways; instead we were gaining freedom. I don't think they have a greater sense of patriotism than the United States. Each were/are have people who are proud of our contries and are willing to die for it. I am proud of my country. I respect the people who made it great and will do stuff to help it grow and be stronger.
Kristen Pauly
2nd hr.

Cherie Stoll said...

3rd hour
The Islamic revolution affected so many people because it forced people to have to change their values and morals. If this were to happen in the United States, I know that there would be a much stronger uprising from the citizens. In the constitution it clearly states our rights of freedom. If the government were to take that away, not many people would stand for it. Our country was based around the idea of having each person decide what is right for them. During the Islamic revolution, the government chose the lifestyle of the people. I don' think that patriotism is different in Iran than in the Untied States. People in Iran were conflicted, not unpatriotic. For the people in Iran, whatever side they fought for during the revolution was the side they thought was best for their country. People went against the government, not the country. To me, patriotism is having faith and giving back to your country. Patriotism is a large part of my life because I am proud to be a part of a country that allows freedom for the people.

heather horne said...

I'm going to talk about the Post High School education in Iran during that time. The effect on this level of learning was crucial. This was the starting point of what the generation was going to look like. Whatever they learned in school would be their knowledge throughout their life. The government could easily minipulate what they thought was the truth about their culture. This effected the entire society because everyone could be tought different things and not know the truth. If this happened in my country I would feel confused and a bit upset. Not knowing what is the right information is extremely frustrating. This could effect my whole future because I could be learning the wrong information in school. Then once I grow up and I learn the truth, then what I thought was right would be wrong. It would mess my life up.

Scott said...

For tonights blog
Iam choosing to do th second topic. If there was an islamic revoluution in the united states the people would react a lot differeantly than in Iran. I think that because unlike Iran we are not subjects, we are citizens. The most likely thing to happen would be that there would be another civil war between the government and the people of the U.S. Another reason it wouldn't work in the U.S because the U.S has the seperation btw. church and state. I think America is way more patriotic than Iran. At least we used to be. Back in the day when there was a war the whole country pulled together for the war effort. There is still patriotism today, for example when we celebrate vetrans, memorial, and presidents day. My view on being patriotic is to support the men and women who are serving our country. Also I feel that it is very patriotic to serve in the military and to fulfill your duties as a citizen.

Anonymous said...

Universities shut down, level of learning gone down, what was Iran to do? All they could do was home school their children. God knows how well that worked out for their children. It probably led teenagers at them time to be less educated. Not the best thing when they're going to end up being the ones to lead the country. If this happened in our society it would probably lead to devastating results. Our society depends on learning so that we can get a good jobs and have a normal life. Without it people wouldn't be able to get the job(s) they wanted and it would ultimately break out into a riot of some sort. Which in turn would lead to a civil war.

James Richardson
3rd hour

Tayler Chase said...

I think its unlikely the Islamic Revolution could happen in America. It would be harder for the Islamic people to over come a nation thats been so strong for so many years. Also I dont think Americans would readily accept this religion as easy at the people in Iran did because not many people are Islamic. Yes, i think th epople in Iran are more partiotic then the people in the States. One reason is because people in the United States take a lot of things for granted. Also I think partiotism is very important.

Chris L. said...

If the Islamic Revolution had happened in the United States, I believe that the actions would have been different. The United States has always been a country where religious freedom was allowed. People wouldn't have forced a specific religion on people like what happened in Iran. The United States democratic ideals protect us from religious persecution. It's hard to say whether there is a greater sense of patriotism in either the United States or Iran. People are (often) attached to the rituals, rules, ideas, and people of their specific country. I would most likely say no - there was not a greater sense of patriotism in Iran than the United States (However, I'm sure that there is/was some) because of the difference in how controlling our governments are. I am very proud of the country that we live in. All countries have their ups and downs, but I am happy to be patriotic in the US. Patriotism is very important to the thriving of a country. When we are proud of the country that we live in, we could consider ourselves patriotic.

ehhhkatieeex said...

People are so affected by the revolution because that's what their growing up with. Also they really can't do anything about it. I think if this happened in the Untied States people would react the same as in Iran. People have a lot of different opinions, and everyone wouldn't think the same thing about it. The United States has a greater sense of patriotism in my eyes. Because Iran does stuff for their religion not their country. Unlike them we do stuff bases on our country. My personal view on patriotism is taking pride in your country. I incorporate it in my life by taking pride in my country and not other ones.


Katlin Gotshaw
3rd Hour

Chloe Martin 6th said...

I have chose to do the second choice. Like Megan said in class Persepolis was a city is Persia, and was remember as a better time. Of course the people of Iran are affected by the Iranian revolution. Either the people are fighting for it or fighting against or there are just the people that are stuck in between without a preference watching the war go on. the Islamic revolution means a lot based on what beliefs that you have, many people in Iran were not in gray areas it was very black and white, so no matter what their opinion is they're fighting for it. I'm not sure if this would compare to how things might be in the U.S.. were not really in a situation like that here and it is hard to imagine what it would be like. i don't think there was more or less patriotism in Iran and the US. Although in Iran, patriotism was a necessity, with the war going on many people were forced to defend themselves and there beliefs and country. In the US patriotism is still a factor while people sign up for the army and give their lives in service of the country. here's the thing with me i love this country and HATE this government. So i believe that supporting the troops is veryyy important. but it is hard to be patriotic when i extremely dislike the way or government is leading us right now. as of know the future doesn't look very good economically and socially so its hard to be proud of what our country has turned into.

Jordan said...

I think i will do the first one. Education is huge no matter where you are from. It is what gets you through life basically. School was shut down because of the shah being taken out of power. Iran had textbooks that praised the shah and they didnt want the kids to learn about him anyone. The universities were shut down for about two years. I think it had a huge effect on Iranian society because the next genrations education was being put off. This means less jobs to those people and kids that are ill informed about education. School is needed for kids to mature and begin their adult life. I agree with what people say about being happy at first about no school but mad because my life would be on delay. I wouldnt be able to get my degree for another two years which means I have to get my career going at a later age. It would affect my future greatly as I said from a adult standpoint and getting a job.
Blanz
2nd

Anonymous said...

The ideas of Persepolis and why people are so affected by the actions of the Islamic Revolution is different from the United States. In the United States we show our patriotism differently. We sing the national anthem, remove our hats, appreciate our armed forces. I guess in some ways the Iranian people and the Americans are alike in the ideas of our peoples actions. I think we may just deal with things differently, like all countries do. The Islamic Revolution deffinitly affected the way the Iranian people lived their lifes. I do think there is a greater sense of patriotism inIran than in the United States. The people have more respect for their country. Also because the women were their veils which is patriotic. Patriotism is in everyones life. You can choose to "be patriotic" although you are surrounded by it. Patriotism is in my life, an example is for our basketball games as a team we connect pinkies and listen to the national anthem while facing the american flag.

Katrina said...

I chose to write about the second one. I know a lot of people didnt understand what she was saying in class yesterday but i agreed with it. (i said she because im not sure how to spell her name) But i think she named it Persepolis because the time period the novel was written in was a terrible time for Iraq, Iran, and their people. But, persepolis, where the former king of iran was buried i believe, reminds them of the good times when Iran was a prosperous and joyous place. Its a way of naming the book to remind them of the good times while the story reflects on the bad. Also, i think that a lot of the same things would happen if things like this were happening in the US as far as the protests and such. However, i think culture definitely made the revolution different, as it would in any country. Obviously if something like this happened in the US we wouldnt have the huge debate and struggle over the veils because they are a part of the culture. So, some things would be different. On the subject of patriotism, i think this novel focused on the patriotic people of iran but im sure there were also people who didnt participate in demonstrations at all, just like what would happen here. This book only talked about one side, the people who were protesting. However, im sure theres another group of people who did not participate in such things. So no, i think the patriotism is about the same. I honestly dont incorperate patriotism into my live very much. Yes i supprt our troops because i have family in the military but its not something i think about on a regular basis and do a lot to show.

Samantha Tedder said...

Education in Iran was effected in so many different ways during the revolution. Young kids went from playing games as recess, to making winter hoods for the soldiers. They learned that god chose the shah, then that god had nothing to do with the chosing of the shah. The children of Iran were subjected to many changes in curriculum that they probably didnt know what was and wasnt right. If there was a revolution in the US, I think basically everything would be affected! Like when those 2 women were fighting for food in the supermarket, I believe a lot of things like that would happen here. It would devastate everyone, and everything. It would definitly impact my future because who knows what would happen to the schools in the midst of the revolution. Actually, who knows what would happen to anything.

Sam Tedder

Andrew Melton said...

I that there is a great patriotism in Iran, but its not greater than the patriotism in the United States. A reason why i think this is because the people that seem to be really patriotic, arent doing anything for their country, they arent going out to fight or supporting their army, theyre just walking the streets correcting someone if theyre not wearing their veils right, or their just not looking the way they want them too. And there are also people there that are extremists, that arent even supporting anything they just go around attacking people if they have someone that theyre not supposed to have in their house, they arent even law inforcement, theyre just people who think their doing the right thing by murdering people. If their people werent extremists and worrying so much about whats going on in their country than whats going on outside of it and whats going on with their military, then i would think theyd be more patriotic. My personal view on patriotism, is supporting the army and armed forces, being in the armed forces, and having a great, great respect for those that are in the armed forces and those retired.

Emma Flynn said...

I think that people are so affected by the actions of the Islamic Revolution because it changed their ways of life. The people saw their country go from being dictated from a powerful Shah, to a new government that used Religion and Education as tools to oppress the citizens. I am sure that if this were to happen in the United States, people would be affected far more dramatically. This is because in America our government is based almost entirely on the idea of freedom. The people are not oppressed by any sort of government, so if a Revolution were to take place, it would be a far greater change.I think there is a greater sense of partiotism in the United States because we are a country with a constitution based entirely of freedom which brings us together in the end. My personal view on patriotism is one's love and respect for one's country. I try to incorporate it into my life by always supporting my troops. I think that it is unfair for people to stop caring and supporting the people overseas who sacrafice their lives everyday for us, just because they are against the war. It is utter bullshit to say you are patriotic when you forget about those who are fighting for us overseas. I incorporate my support for my country by always thanking a soldier if I see them somewhere, like in an airport.

Eric Tamm said...

People are so affected by the events of the Islamic REvolution because after the Sha left, who wasn't a very good leader anyways, people were left with no leader, whcih led to confusion. Therefore, they had really no way of organizing a defense against the Islamic peoples taking over and leading the governament. Once they cam to power, they got more power, and it became harder to revolt. They were effected because they couldn't resist the government. I think this is mainly different than if it happened in the U.S. This is because in Ameica we would hopefully recongnize that they are trying to take over. We also have freedom of religion. However, I think there is a greater sense of patriotism in Iran because they have more to fear, and therefore they love their copuntry more. They have to all band together to fight off corruption which brings the people closer to each other. I personally try to be as patrotic as can be. However, let it be known that I HATE Obama. But that doesn't mean I can't love my country.

Kaleigh S said...

Post high school education after the revolution occurred in 1979-1980 was shut down for a few years. All the universities were closed so that the information they were teaching could be reviewed and altered. This means that a big group of people who wanted to go to college could not for a few years. Also, it was confusing to many young people because what they had been learning was all of the sudden being pronounced as incorrect. If this happened in our country, I would be completely confused just as other young people in the Iranian society felt. It would effect my whole future because our society puts such a large emphasis on going to college and getting a degree that it would be almost impossible for me to get a job. I would have to work at a very low-paying job until the universities opened back up again. By that point, I would have to go to college when I normally would be almost done with it.

John said...

I am going to do the second one. I think that people are so affacted by the islamic revolution because it was a very big deal. It is still kind of going on today. There is the constant fight between areas in those middel eastern coutries and is has a lot to do with relgion. I think if this were to happen in the united states then i dont think that the same consiquences would be considered. I think that there is a greater deal of patriotism in the United stats than Iran becuase we are not bend on civil wars and who does what with there relgion. We allow everyone into our country with any repurcusions. My personal view on patriotism is very good, and I use freedom speach everyday, so i think this is how I incorporate patriotism into my everday life.

John McLean
3rd hour

A D A M H A H N said...

The Islamic Revolution affected so many people because they were all caught up in the midst of it. Everyone was a part of it, the young the old, traditionalists and revolutionaries. I believe it would be exactly the same if this happened in the United States. People always have their own opinions on everything, especially religion. Therefore, there would be opposing viewpoints, and people would take sides, just as in Persepolis. No, I think the United States has the same amount of Patriotism in it as Iran. The people of the US love their country too and we've gone through similar things to their revolution, like revolutions of our own. Patriotism is a really good thing in my view, you should be rooting for your country. I do have Patriotism for my country, in that I like having certain freedoms and things, but I do not necessarily agree with everything that the government is doing in our country and how everything is handled.

btw this is #5 for me

Sean Suehr said...

I think that if there was a revolution in the U.S. things would not be nearly as bad as they are in Iran. I think this because even though America is very patriotic, a lot of people do not support america and will not come together with different people to work together on one single problem. In Iran there is a greater sense of patriotism because the people are forced to be patriotic. If they are not then they are killed or tortured. In America they cant do that because we have moral values. My view of patriotism is living in america and not complaining about it. I incorporate it into my daily life by not really caring about the economy because it will go up and down constantly and America cant do anything to stop that. I think that more Americans should be more patriotic towards america and not complain about all of its problems.

Jessica klave said...

For todays blog im going to blog abou the second one. I think that people are so affected by the islamic revolution becasuse its so govermental. I feel if there were a revolution going on in the united states it would affect our lifes drasticly. i think it would be a little different though in the aspect that the u.s government is all about the people. I feel that the islamic people are very self centered and controlling of its people. im not sure how it would affect me beacuse i can make up a revolution. It would affect my whole future becasue a revolution is a big change so obviously it would change my future.

Alanna Nagi said...

For this blog, I'm going to chose the second one. What people were going through during the Islamic Revolution could be similar to what could happen in the United States. However, it's different at the same time. How it's different is because the people of Iran were had religion and all these new laws and rules forced on them. Boys and girls are separated at school. Women and girls are forced to wear veils. Women's main job was to stay at home, take care of the house and the children. In the United States, there's no laws forcing us to believe something, or to dress in a certain way. Having separate schools for boys and girls is optional, as well as women having jobs. Also the
United States government is really focused on the people, like how Iran's was. People in Iran were very patriotic, but I feel that the United States could be just as patriotic as Iran was. I believe that everyone should have pride in their country, as well as everyone should support our country and the people fighting for it. I incorporate patriotism in with my life by honoring the men who have served our country and who are still serving our country, and being proud of our country.

Alanna Nagi
2nd hour

beattiex33 said...

With their government changing and people starting to take sides, the Islamic peoples lives, during the Islamic Revolution, were changed forever. I think that is why people are so affected by that war. Their people took sides once everything went into caous, which made it difficult for people to adjust to the surroundings. So, due to their struggles and differences within their own government, I think it made people feel for those individuals. Now reading Persepolis, others can look at a child’s point of view when it came to the war. If this happened in America, I think people would feel the same way. I think anyone would sympathize for a country that goes through that much pain. Plus, with all of the help that America offers other countries, they should understand our pain as well. I feel that America has so much patriotism because we appreciate what we have, but I feel that Iran does too. I wouldn’t say that they have more patriotism then us, but I also wouldn’t say that we have less. I think everyone should, and do, love their country and support it as well as they can. Personally, I feel that patriotism is one of my top values. I appreciate what I have and realize I wouldn’t have it if it weren’t for my country and all of its people that helped it become what it is now. I show this patriotism every day because I always have my U.S. flag up outside my house, and I believe in my country and what it can do for me and everyone else.

Lauren Beattie
3rd Hour

Hailey Ledgley(: 3rd hour said...

I am going to choose the second one. I think that people are really effected like in Iran. I think this because when people go into a revolution there is always going to be different opinions on it. Not everyone is going to agree on something. People are going to stand up for what they believe and do whatever they can. Even if that involves violence. As it did in iran. I do not think that there is greater partiotism in Iran than in the United States. If we went threw a new revoluition im sure we would act the same as they did. I think people should be proud of there country, i mean it is where there chosing to live. i show this by the national anthem when they play it i put my hand over my chest.

Hannah Ledgley (: said...

I think im gonna do the second one. People are affected by the actions of the islamic revolution becuase they are in volved with the goverment. The goverment also is very forcful and acts directly with the people. When the united states has not really involved us people yet. But if it did happen I think that we would react in the same way. People would either be protesting their believes, or would flee the country by now. People would stand up for what they think is right. Which that would cause lots of violence and bad things happening in our country. I kinda feel like the islamic people are very self centered and controlling of its people. I really dont know who it could control my future because i dont know if anything worse will happen.

Hannah Aittama said...

The people of Iran were extremely effected by the war. The government forced them to change the way they lived their lives. I think that if this happened people would react the same way. They would protest just like Marji's parents did and they would make sure the government knew how they felt. But, I think that people in the United States might be more upset if the government all of a sudden changed everything because we have a constitution that gives us freedoms. I think that the patriotism is the same in both America and Iran. There is always people who have extreme love for their country and ones that don't really care, I don't think that it is different if you live in other countries. As for me I am patriotic. Whenever the national anthem comes on I respect it. Also I respect the people who are in the military and what they are doing for our country.

Hannah Aittama
2nd hour

Trevor Stratton said...

This effected learning in many ways. At one point during the revolution the Iranian government actually closed down all schools. They did this because they did not see that how they were being taught was fit for there society, so they closed them until they could fix that. This hindered education because students would not be able too get an education, so they would have trouble getting jobs, or learning basic skills. This could have also affected the Iranian society because they would have more kids running around in the streets. This would most likely make there be a jump in crimes. If this happened today in our society everything would fall apart, worse then it is right now. If all schools were closed thousands of people would be out of a job. This would also cause students who have not had a proper education to be without jobs.

Taylor Wattles said...

sorry this is late i got caught up in the win friday night and forgot this was mandatory. I think that people were very much effected by the islamic revolution. Anytime that people are trying to force a serious subject like religion upon another they will revolt. This is why this was such a serious and important time for iranians because they had to stick up for what they believed in. I think a very similar situation would happen if this happened in the U.S. today because people especially Americans are stubborn and aren't afraid to stand up for what they believe in. I think that there is greater patriotism in the U.S. then in Iran only because when something bad happens people do all they can to support one another. In Iran they were afraid if the did something they weren't supposed to they would be killed. Patriotism is how you show your support for your country. I show patriotism towards my country by standing and removing my hat during the national anthem. Also by respecting veterans and supporting are troops all across the world.

Taylor Wattles

ZACK SZAJNER 5th Hour said...

Think about the idea of Persepolis and why people are so affected by the actions of the Islamic Revolution. Is this the same or different than if this happened in the United States? Why or why not? Is there a greater sense of patriotism in Iran than in the United States? Why or why not? What is your personal view on patriotism and how do you incorporate it in your life?

People are affected by this because they lose trust in religion and their country. They thought that the government and the religion were there to help. I think this is different from what happened in the US. I don't think that we wouldve taken it to such measures. In the US the people were way less radical and less lives were spared. I wouldn't say that we aren't as patriotic as the people in Iran. I would say that we aren't as radical. We don't go as far as blowing people, and killing our own. Personally o think about patriotism as having to be in the army, but doing what your country calls upon you to do. If I'm not drafted then I see my place in this to be someone who is a citizen who positively contributes to our country. Just go in the flow with other people and be someone who's a positive influence.

Dan Calma said...

I think people were affected by the Islamic Revolution because of how extreme peoples actions got during that time. I think it would be different here in the U.S., but I don't think that would happen. I think that because the U.S. is a melting pot. I don't think either has a greater sense of patriotism. I just think that Iranians make totally different choices on how to express their patriotism. I don't really know where I stand on patriotism, but what I do know is I love this country. I live by the great saying by Daniel Webster, "I was born an American; I will live an American; I shall die an American!"