Friday, October 16, 2009
Day 27
The movie, "Planet of the Apes," closely follows similar themes of "Lord of the Flies." In regards to this idea, choose either discrimination or survival as your topic for this blog. Then, give examples of how this theme is evident in both the movie and the novel and connect them to a character from each as well. Finally, why do authors of movies and novels use these same themes so often?
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The movie, "Planet of the Apes," closely follows the theme of survival, along with "Lord of the Flies." During the opening scene of the movie, their space shuttle crashed into the water of the Apes planet. Also, during the opening sequence of Lord of the Flies, their plane crashes into the island. After these unfortunate events they all have to fight to survive. Survival means living as long as you can, the best you can. The way they do it in Lord of the Flies is by starting their own civilization. In Planet of the Apes, instead of starting their own civilization, they find one. Unfortunately for them, they get hunted by the Apes. The whole crew except for Taylor and Landon are killed. They survive by being put into cages and fed like animals. The apes world is an upside world, we are the animals, they are the alpha race. The apes have to do their own thing for survival. The apes attack the humans and dispose of them so that they can stay on top and never lose power. Through out the movie it is obvious that the humans have the ability to over throw the apes (Taylor kicks like 50 Ape's).
The movie "Planet of the Apes" follows the theme of survival. The humans and the apes are both trying to survive. This theme is also shown in "Lord of the Flies." The boys are trying there best to survive on the island that they landed on. I think that survival means to try your best to live as long as you can in a hard situation. IN lord of the flies they start their own civilization and in planet of the apes they accidently find one. The apes capture taylor. I think that authors of movies adn books use these themes to keep it interesting. You dont want a boring theme.
Katlyn Twigg
Both the movie "Planet of the Apes" and the novel "Lord of the Flies" closely follow the suvival theme. As "Planet of the Apes" started, 3 of the 4 crew members of a space shuttle were forced into a survival situation after it crashed into a large body of water. And in "Lord of the Flies" in the first pages, a boy was walking around on a island after his plane, filled with other kids, was shot down. Taylor, from "Planet of the Apes", and Ralph, from "Lord of the Flies", both try their best to survive in the hostile in enviroment they were tossed into. Authors most likely use these themes so much becuase it is easy to form a good story around it. Plus it also makes a great movie or show. Like Will Smith's movie "I am Legend" was formed around the theme of survival and it was awesome. The theme of survival is present in a many books and novels, for example any of the Harry Potter or the Inheritence series (Eragon, Eldest, and Brisngr) are based on survival.
In "Planet of the Apes" and "Lord of the Flies" they use an idea of discrimination. In "Lord of the Flies" most of the people on the island discrimnate against piggy. Piggy didn't do anything to any of them he was just there and because he looked different they picked on him. In "Planet of the Apes" they discriminate against the people. They think there horrible just because there different then them and they arent as smart. I also think they discriminate against Zira and Cornelius. The apes do this because Zira and Cornelius have a different view of where they all came from. Also because they see potential in Taylor. I think authors use these themes so often because it gets a rise out of people and its what we enjoy.
Planet of the Apes show discrimination because when they landed humans were known as animals. Taylor had to fight his way in just to survive the attack of the apes. He was locked in a cage and was going to be used for scientific study. After they found out Taylor was from a totally different world he still was looked down upon. Now he his fighting his way into the ape culture but it's not easy. He reminds me of Ralph. Ralph had to try and get back into Jack's group to live. Authors use the same theme sometimes just because it is a good theme. They word it different but it all has the same meaning.
The theme of survival is showed in both “Planet of the Apes” and in “Lord of the Flies”. In “Lord of the Flies” the boys crash and have to make their own society. In “Planet of the Apes” they crash and find their own society. Both of them try as hard as possible to survive. Taylor and Ralph are the ones that try to survive the hardest. Authors use the same themes so often because of two reasons. One, they grab the attention of the reader/watcher. And the second is because they are easy themes to build a story/movie on.
"Planet of the Apes" closely follows the theme of discrimination, as well as "Lord of the Flies." In the movie, "Planet of the Apes," humans are considered to be stupid, mindless animals. They are treated as pets and hunted like animals. In the novel, "Lord of the Flies," discrmination is evident at the very beginning. The chracter, Piggy, is called many names like fatty, and piggy. Nobody ever calls him by his real name. In "Planet of the Apes," Taylor is treated unequally just like Piggy.
Taylor is treated like an animal and a pet and nobody likes him except for the scientist. Piggy is treated in kind of the same way. Nobody listens to him, just like Taylor, and nobody takes him seriously. I think the authors of movies and novels use the same themes so often because they are important. Discrimination is something that happens everyday, and the people that are discriminated against are hurt by it.
James Richardson
3rd hour
The movie, "Planet of the Apes, and, "Lord of the files" closely follow the theme of discrimination. In LOTF Piggy is discrimated upon because of his looks, health, and not so good looks. From the beginning the other boys made fun of Piggy and Jack picked fights with him. Even though Piggy was intelligent and had a lot to offer they picked on him. In "Planet of the Apes" Taylor was discriminated upon and treated like an animal because he was different. Taylor and Piggy were both intelligent people and both were discrimanted against because of their looks. Authors use these same themes often because people can identify with trying to survive and being discrimated against. Survival and discrimination are a part of every society.
The movie "Plant of the Apes" and the novel "Lord of the Flies" follows the theme of survival. In both they are trying to survive. Survival means trying yout best to live, and get by on all the stuff you can find around. In the Lord of the Flies the boys have to find a civilazition and find a way to get by on what food they can find. But in The Planet of the Apes, they find a civilazition instead of having to make one. I think authors of books and movies use these themes to make them more appealing, and interesting. If they didn't then people probably wouldn't want to watch them.
Katlin Gotshaw
3rd Hour.
The movie "Planet of the Apes" closely follows the discrimination theme. In the "Lord of the Flies" the boys discriminate agains Piggy because he is bigger and wears glasses. In "Planet of the Apes" the apes discriminate against the humans because they are different than them. In the movie the apes discrimanate against the humans because the apes believe they arent as smart as them. The apes keep the humans in cages and do studies on them. I think that these themes are very easy to write ablout, and make good stories. This is why authors and directors use these themes so often.
In "Planet of the Apes", and "Lord of the Flies" both follow the these of discrimination. In LOTF, Jack makes SO many comments about Piggy's appearance. Yes, Piggy may be fat, and have glasses, but that doesn't mean Piggy isn't smart, or any less of a person. In "Planet of the Apes", the apes discriminate against Taylor, because he is a man. They don't care that they know he can talk, and think, they just want to use him for research. They also discriminate against Zira and Cornelious because they think Taylor is special. Also, I think authors use the same themes so often, because they know that common things get a rise out of people. Even if its the same thing over and over, people still like it.
Sam Tedder
2nd hour
Both Planet of the Apes and The lord of the flies are a similar theme of discrimination. Both of them follow this them because in planet of the Apes the humans are discrimination againest. For example in The Planet of the Apes the humas are kept in cages like animals are. Also the Apes regard human life like it is yesterday's trash. They wanted to operate on Taylor's brain even through he is the only human that can talk. In Lord of the Flies Piggy is discrimination against just because he is fat and wears glasses. Nobody sees Piggy as a resource until toward the end of the story, when it is too late. Toward the end of the story Ralph becomes really good friends with Piggy and then Piggy is killed by the boulder. Another way piggy is discrimination against is at the begaing of the story when Jack, Ralph and Simon go and explore the island and they leave only piggy behind.
Discrimination, is big in both the movie and the novel. In the novel, a good example of the discrimination is piggy. Piggy has all of these wonderful ideas, and if people would just listen to what he had to say, then they might have had an easier time surviving, and leading a semi-civil life. In the movie, it is humans. For whatever reason, the humans started to evolve backwards, while the apes started to evolve. The humans were treated horribly, because they were different and misunderstood. The sad truth, is that the reason that authors of movies and novels use this theme so often is because the themes are always current. Even today, people are discriminated against just because they are different and misunderstood. For example, homosexuals. No one understands why homosexuals are homosexual. Some people say they are born that way, but they have no idea why. Others say that they make the choice, but then the question is when, and why again. Either way, thousands of homosexuals never come out, because they are scared of what might happen to them. The reality is, that people who dont understand why homosexuals are the way they are scared of them. The fact that it cant be explained scares them. This in turn, as in the movie, led to the discrimination of the group, because they dont understand.
I think that the movie planet of the apes follows the theme of survival along with the book. In both situations they are stranded somewhere they dont want to be. In lord of the flies they are on an island and in the movie they are on another planet. In lord of the flies they have to create their own rules to succed and survive. In planet of the apes they meet and are hunted by the apes. They have to go by the apes rules. In both situations though they are just trying to stay alive. In lord of the flies ralph seems to care about survival the most andwants to keep the signal fire going. In planet of the apes taylor is trying to survive in the cage but is having a hard time because he cant get through to the apes. I think authors of movies and novels use these themes alot because they are so easy to make a storyline about. That is why so many movies are based off survival.
Blanz
2nd
In the Planet of the Apes and Lord of the flies they use a survival theme. This theme is evident in both the movie and the novel in different ways. For the planet of the apes survival is planed out by getting out of the aircraft before it sinks and finding a civilization. Also for the last airman left he tries to stay alive from the apes authority. In the Lord of the flies the children try to make it through survival when the airplane crashes. Also piggy, simon, samneric, and Ralph try to stay alive from Jacks hunters. I think authors of movies and novels use the same themes often because survial and discrimination are apart of every society.
Both "Planet of the Apes" and " Lord of the Flies" both follow the theme of discrimination. In "Planet of the Apes", the apes discriminate all the humans, because they think they stupid. They refer to the humans as animals. The apes don't allow any of the humans to have any rights under ape law, even though Taylor is just as smart as any of the apes, but since hes a human they don't care. In "Lord of the Flies", everyone discriminates against Piggy, because he has glasses, asthma and is heavier. They don't care that he has good ideas, to the boys on the island his appearance hides his good ideas. Authors or movies and novels use the same theme alot of the time because, usually what makes for a good book, will make a good, entertaining movie as well.
Hannah Aittama
2nd hour
In Planet of the Apes, closely follows the theme of survival, along with Lord of the Flies. During the opening scene of the movie, their space shuttle crashed into the water of the Apes planet. kinda like the plane crashed on the island in lord of the flies. in lord of the flies they are trying to survive as best as they can by finding water, food etc. Thats the same in planet of the apes. Aslo in both not everyone survies, leaving only a few people. They both have a leader and rules that they fallow. i do think both the authors follow the same theme throught out the movie and the book at some point
In the movie "Planet of the Apes" as well as the novel "Lord of the flies" both follow the theme of discrimination. In "Planet of the Apes", the apes really discriminate against the humans, or man kind. They didn't believe that man kind could speak, write, think, and reason. Basically they thought that man kind had no brains whatsoever, they thought that man kind has no intelligence. The character Taylor, tried over and over to explain to the apes that there is another planet with life, and that there is technology that can take you there, but the apes won't even let him speak. Taylor's only proof that he was right, was his friend Landon that was on the planet of the apes as well, but the apes took his identity, and took out his brain. this was ll for the purpose of Landon looking physco. In the novel "Lord of the Flies" Piggy is discriminated against greatly, in the beginning of the novel. All Piggy was known for was for being overweight, having asthma, and wearing classes, which all certified him as "un-cool" you could say, and not fitting in with the rest of the boys. Behind Piggy's weight problem, his asthma, and his glasses was brains. Piggy was very intelligent. He was probably the smarted boy on the island, but no one would give him a chance because pf his appearance. The reason for author's of movies and novels using discrimination in their movies and novels, I believe is because there is so much of it going on in the world, it opens people's eyes to what reality is really like, and hoping that it will make a difference to the viewers and readers.
Alanna Nagi
2nd hour
The movie, "Planet of the Apes," and the novel, "Lord of the Flies," have the same theme of discrimination in them. In the movie, men are discriminated against because they are viewed as not being as intelligent as the apes. They are put in cages and treated like wild animals. When the leaders of the apes discover that the one man, Taylor, can talk, they automatically want to get rid of him or at least take away his ability to speak. In "Lord of the Flies," Piggy is discriminated against because of his weight, asthma, and glasses. He is always teased and the boys don't give him a fair chance to give his opinion a lot because of his physical limitations. I believe authors of movies and novels use the same themes so often because they appear in daily life. People connect better with movies and books that have to do with their lives. It's about what the author wants you to learn from the book or movie.
Kaleigh Swanson
2nd
The movie "Plant of the Apes" and the novel "Lord of the Flies" follows the theme of survival. In both they are trying to survive. Survival means trying your best to live. In the Lord of the Flies the boys have to find a civilazition and find a way to get by on what food they can find. But in planet of tyhe apes they find a civilization and dont have to build one from scratch.
The movie Plant of the Apes, really does follow the theme of survival, with Lord of the Flies. In the begining of the movie the space shuttle crashed in the water on ape planet. Also in the begining of the book their plane crashesinto the island. After all this stuff happens they are forced to fight for life to survive. In the movie the apes just find a civilization in the book they start one. In the movie the humans get hunted and are considered animals, the apes are the alpha. The apes have to do everything on their own for survival. the apes do what ever it takes to get rid of the humans so that no one takes over them, and cant lose power.
The movie, "Planet of the Apes," closely follows the theme of survival, along with "Lord of the Flies." In both movies in the begining they crashed and had now idea where they were. Everyone has to fight to survive. to live as long as they can. In Lord of The Flies, they start there own little community, and all work toghter to be able to survive. In Planet of the Apes, they find one that has been living there, so there there to go by those rules. Not their own. I think authors use this theme because it keeps the listener intrested, and wanting to know what happens next.
The central theme between the lord of the flies and plant of the apes are similar because they are stranded. Their stranded in unfamilar sourroundings that the have to adapt to survive. The characters in both the movies can be described alike but they are very different in the long run. The situtations in which thier standed is also different but their goals are the same. The authors of movies and novels use this theme because it gets the readers wondering "what if i was in that situtation". It puts the readers in their shoes, its a theme that everybody wonders about and how they would survive. And finally the reason the theme is continued to be use in stories and movies is the same reason it keeps people thinking.
The movie Planet of the Apes and the book Lord of the Flies closely follows a familiar theme which is survival. In planet of the apes when they land on the planet they are trying to survive. In Lord of the Flies they have to survive once they crash on the island. Both topics show similar themes like survival in many ways. After both people crash they all have to survive with the recourses that they have. They have to get use to things and work together to survive for as long as they can. Authors use this survival theme so much because it is an exciting theme. It is also a theme that people can put themselves into and actually feel like they have to survive.
Mr. Kay,
I am very sorry that my blog is late. I have talked to you about my internet before and this is as soon as I could get to a computer. Thank you for your understanding.
Discrimination is an evident theme in both the movie and the novel in many ways. In the movie, discrimination is shown between the apes and the humans where the apes are treating the humans barbarically and with little respect like animals. This isn't the only discrimination shown in the movie, the superior apes like the doctor and judges look down upon the lower class apes. This is like Lord of the Flies when the littluns are looked down upon by the biguns. Jack also discriminates against Ralph and almost all the boys discriminate against Piggy because he is fat and wear specs. Authors use the same themes so often because they are evident in the real world and many people can connect to them. Furthermore, Planet of the Apes and Lord of the Flies are very similar in many ways such as the theme of discrimination.
For this blog im chooing to talk about discrimination. This theme is evident in both "Lord of the Flies" and "Planet of th Apes." In Lord of the Flies there are two examples of this. For one, Piggy. Piggy is different from the rest of the boys and therefor they reject him and his ideas. This discrimination hurts Piggy, but it also hurts the group. Piggy is very smart and has a lot of good ideas about how the island should work and what the boys need to do to survive but no one will listen to him because he's different from them, so they never use his good ideas. Descrimination is also somewhat evident when it comes to the littluns. The boys see then as extra weight because they cant take care of themselves. They look down on them a lot throughout the novel. In Planet of the Apes the biggest example of discrimination is pretty obvious, hat of the apes towards the beasts, or humans. They keep them in cages, beat them, and kill them. It i also evident among the apes. For example, the one set of doctor apes who chose to study other apes look down on the doctor apes that chose to study humans instead. So discrimination is a very important theme in both Lord of the Flies and Plnet of the Apes. Finally, authors of movies an novels use these themes so often because these themes make good stories and movies. People like to see things involving survival and descrimination so its easy to have a good movie or novel based on either of these things.
In Planet of the Apes, survival is evident when the three astronauts are with the other humans in the field and then the apes come on horseback and catch all of them. When taylor get captured, he tries and escapes and gets chased by the apes for a while and eventually gets caught. Another example was at the end of the movie when cornelius, the doctor, the doctors nephew, and taylor go into the cave and find the evidence of past human existance. They do this so the three apes wont be arrested for assisting taylor in his escape. In the lord of the flies, survival is evident by gathering food, keeping the fire lit to try and get noticed, and survival against eachother. Jack and the savages are now their own group and Ralph still has a few kids left who didnt join Jack. They both are competing for something the other group has. The savages need fire, so they steal Piggy's specs. In movies, these themes are oftenly used because its the easiest and simpliest way to demonstrate how society in real life actually is.
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