Welcome back. I hope you had a restful vacation and are ready to begin. I will warn that we are going to being working fast and furiously leading into Winter Break.
You must keep up on your reading. You should be through chapter 9.
For this evening:
Polygamy is defined as the practice of having more than one spouse at a time. The work and play of the women and children in this chapter provide examples of a harmonious polygamous household. Describe this household in terms of the relationships between Okonkwo’s wives and children. Lastly, what do you think of the idea of polygamy? Are there any advantages to having more than one spouse and what would they be? If not, why not?
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i think that it would be hard to have more than one wive. especially for oknokwo. he always is yelling at people and always has a negative chi. i think that this is the cause of it. he is so stressed out about his wives and having to worry about them. i think that if they were not aloud to have more than one wive he would be happier. my opinion on the whole polygamy is that it's not right. every time you get a new wive you treat them worse and worse. polygamy causes you to treat your wives unfair. that's why i think that polygamy shouldn't be aloud
The realtion with him and his wives and also his children is generaly bad. I think there are major struggles going on in the household. He should be more respectful of them. He should also pay more attention to his children. I think the idea of it is bad. No women should have to go through that... It is wrong to treat them that way and disrespectful. And there is one advantage though and it is more wives to cook and clean up ha everything will always be done.
Cody Dykes
Polygamy is defined as the practice of having more than one spouse at a time. The work and play of the women and children in this chapter provide examples of a harmonious polygamous household. Describe this household in terms of the relationships between Okonkwo’s wives and children. Lastly, what do you think of the idea of polygamy? Are there any advantages to having more than one spouse and what would they be? If not, why not?
First I'm going to start off to say that the idea of polygamy is not a smart idea unless your trained to Handle it. I don't think that the relationship between Okonkwo and his wives are really good. He seems to beat them every few pages. I'm not completely sure why he does though, he obviously can't handle it. His relationship with the kid's doesn't seem to horrible;e though, it definitely doesn't compare to how bad it is with his wives. There is not allot of pluses about polygamy is any. It's allot more work and it cost allot more. In general i just think that it's a bad idea and is not worth it.
okonowo is in a traditional relationship for his people with his family i believe. whereas he runs the household and is respected in that aspect. however, he is very violent with his relationship with them. i think polygamy is very disadvantageous. it brings a higher cost on to a family, and there is more stress. i dont believe in polygamy, but its not up to me, i think everyone should get to do their own thing. i personally do not support it though.
The relationship between Okonkwos and his wives is very miserable. The wives fear Okonkwo and they do everything for him. Also, I think that they are acting as servants to him. My opinoun is that the children are treated better than the women. It is wrong the way that the women are treated. I wouldn't like having more that one wife because everything would be more complicated. One advantage is that more things around the house would be done and clean.
I think the relationship between him and his wives is bad. One reason I think this is because if you truly love someone than you would only be with one person. You wouldn't have several wives. I also think the relationship between his wives and his children are bad. This is because they will never have a close relationship. I dont think that okwonko gives a lot of attention to his kids and his kids probably don't think that he loves them. There is an advantage to having more than one wife. There is a lot more help around the house.
I think that the wives and kids on okonkwo get along great with all the other wives and kids. I do not think that okonkwo has a perfect relationship with his family at all. He treats them with respect when they act like perfect people, but once they act freely it doesnt go to kindly to them. If the boys cry or girls do not sit right he could snap and seriously hurt them. His second wife almost got her head shot off, if okonkwo had any idea of aim at all, because of a small mistake. I think polygamy should not be practiced world wide. I think that aginst some religions it is very offensive and could cause many problems. I also think that people should do as they please as long as it does not harm others. i have to say i do not have a firm stand on this.
Okonkwo's polygamous relationships are very poor; he treats his women and children as objects rather than people that he loves. I can imagine how painful it is to not only the wives and children but also to Okonkwo himself, however his burden is his own doing.
One who morally supports polygamy like Okonkwo is bound to live a very stressful life. Although the deaths of any one - or more - of the wives or children has less of an impact than does the death of a wife or child of a monogamous pair, the impact is still there and it happens often as there are many deaths rather than one.
I do not support polygamy in any way for a person's heart should be bound to one others, not divided up unto many. Clearly a polygamous relationship beholds less care and support for each spouse than does a monogamous one. I suppose there do exist advantages of this kind of relationship, such as the emotional support, physical, and financial support of more than one spouse, however I can't think of many and think it far more rewarding to be in love with one partner rather than many.
Okonkwo's relationship between his wives and children would not be tolerated today. When he gets mad at them, he beats them on a daily bases. The wives and children of Okonkwo almost get used to this picking on and beating. It was the way of life for them. I think the idea of polygram is crazy. It is really weird to think that they had many wives. Probably an advantge to having more then one wife is more help around the houses for Oknowko. But mostly i disagree with polygamy and would not like it at all.
In the household the wives do what ever Okonkwo wants. The children help the wives do work. The wives cook and clean the houses and take care of their children. If they fail at any of these tasks they will be beaten. Polygamy is something I would not want I would only want one wife and not have to worry about what the others do. There is an advantage to having more than one wife and that is that you can have a big family if you like that sort of thing. I think that only one wife is the way to go in life.
i think okonkwos has abad relationship with his children and wives. every chance he gets he beats his wives for almost no reason at all. that is not how you treat a lady. he treats them like they are his maid service and that he cant do much of anything for himself. when it comes to his children however his relationship is even worse. he spends all of his time pushing them around and trying to "toughen" them up. although thisis fine in moderation oknokwo spends all of his time doing that. it is important that young children feel loved and wanted by both parents so that they can grow up well. when it comes to okwonkwo's children they recieve none of that. i think polygamy is a horriable practice not only is the idea wrong but so is every last thing it represents. polygamy gives rise to the notion that affairs and other such intermarital relations are ok but the truth is they are not. life is supposed to be spent with one soul mate not how many people you can buy with your money.
Tom Hall
Because having a polygomous household is so normal and natural within this culture in the tribes, they don't think anything differently of it. The idea of polygomy and having one wife is so foreign to us and is such a crime here in this country for many good reasons. Within Okonkwo's home, he has three wives and different children with each, which all seem to be just fine with it because they are all treated the same by Oknokwo. He treats them all as they are just objects and puppets that he can control and tell what to do. There household is strictly lead by the power of Okonkwo and whatever he says, goes. The three wives and many children slave away for Okonkwo and do all of the dirty wok for him. I believe that the idea of polygomy is upsurd, and holds no point. I think that two people are meant to be in love with eachother, and not have to share that special relationship and bond with others. I don't think there would be any advantages to having more than one spouse because you would never have that sense of love and connection with one another, because you know that you are not the only one for that person, and there is no bond between just the two of you. I don't think it is healthy, and there is really not need for having more than one spouse in my eyes.
Okonkwo's relationship between his wives and children are terible in many ways. His wives are scared that they will be hurt if they are not following Okonkwo's orders so the house seems to be okay, but really is not. The children are often treated better then the wives of Okonkwo which makes absolutely no sense to me. Okonkwo is to be treated with respect, which is understandable, but personally I believe no person is greater then anyone else, so Okonkwo should not be held on such a high ground in the home. I think that the idea of polygamy is rediculas, miserable, and no way to live life. What did the male do to deserve such great respect and honor that his reward is as many wives as he chooses. I just can imagine having a husband who I am fully committed to, who is having kids with another women. I also think it is impossible to be truely in love with more then one person, so I think it would be so hurtful to know you are married to someone who really is not in love with you. Sure, he may have love for you, but he is simply showing that he is not actually in love with you.
This was also kind of ironic because I was just watching a little bit of Oprah today (I seriously never watch Oprah) and today it was about polygamy and about the women who have escaped from that life. Just kinda weird what are the odds that was on today and I ended up watching some of it?hahaaaa yep.
rachel duelo.
Polygamy is defined as the practice of having more than one spouse at a time. The work and play of the women and children in this chapter provide examples of a harmonious polygamous household. Describe this household in terms of the relationships between Okonkwo’s wives and children. Lastly, what do you think of the idea of polygamy? Are there any advantages to having more than one spouse and what would they be? If not, why not?
I think Okonkwo's relationship with his wives and children is bad.his wives and childern he traets them like objects not people. No one deserves to be treated that way. Advantages of haveing more than one spouse is that you could have one wife cleaning and one cooking. That could be one advantage of haveing to wives. I do not like the idea of polygamy. polygamy causes you to treat your wives unfair or bad.
My idea on the entire issue of polygamy is somewhat more relaxed than some of my classmates. While I, as an individual would not want more than one person to love, I do not care what other individuals choose. I am of the firm standing that what one does is one's own business and I am in no position to say that it is wrong, immoral, dishonest, irreligious, blasphemous, or against society's established set of "norms". Insofar, I have not changed my view. However, I would make it clear that I do see actions with an intent of harm, oppression, enslavement, genocide, murder, or any means of brainwashing or forced-thinking wrong. Therefore, I do not care either way on the issue of polygamy. I believe that if a person possesses the right heart, then it is perfectly acceptable to wed as many women or men as he or she chooses. I do not believe that in a "true" polygamist relationship any of the women are seen as greater than or less than anyone else or in any way treated like "pets" or affectations. In a true polygamist relationship, the love is spread evenly and in not reserved towards any one or any few. What my classmates, in my opinion, are stating is the common view of polygamy offered by the media as "wrong". I would point out that this is the general Christian view, and while I'm not knocking anyones' religion, one must remember that religions often point out the wrongs in another one before pointing out their own. On another note, if a person doesn't wish to do so, or if they are in any way abusive or detrimental to such a relationship, then they should have the sense not to pursue it.
I find Okonkwo's relationship with his wives to be similar to those of my classmate's findings. I find it deplorable that he should mistreat anyone. While this is acceptable in their culture, I don't think that it is necessary. Okonkwo's wives make mistakes as Okonkwo does himself. He perhaps is afraid of facing this and therefore, when he notices a transgression of that nature displayed by someone else, he feels obliged to literally beat it out of them to obtain a sense of self-worth.
I believe that several advantages of a polygamous household is that there is a definite economic advantage. Multiple spouses are able to generate multiple incomes and therefore pool resources. Also, polygamist marriages offer the obvious advantage of a somewhat diminished sense of loss after a death. While this could be viewed as a sadistic or uncaring statement, I would assume it to be true in most cases. Several disadvantages of a polygamist relationship is the attached social stigma to such a perceived "perversion". Also, facts do show that with polygamist families, there is an increased tendency for incest, and thusly, an increased chance for propagated genetic diseases. This is one of the largest disadvantages f polygamist marriages and should definitely be avoided if possible.
That is my view on the subject, I do not view polygamy as "wrong or right" just as I view most lifestyle choices. I realize that I have no say in what people think or how they choose to behave and choose myself not to be so arrogant and presumptuous to suggest otherwise.
I believe owonkwos relationship with his family is okay. Many times in life relationships with not only friends but family members can have an up and down experience. The idea of polygamy is somewhat effective it could use some minor kinks. Have more than one wife also in my book is not right at all.
Scott roteman
Describe this household in terms of the relationships between Okonkwo’s wives and children. Lastly, what do you think of the idea of polygamy? Are there any advantages to having more than one spouse and what would they be? If not, why not?
A household to me with more then one wife and children is disfunctional. In my eyes polygamy shows no respect for women or youself. to me there is absolutly NO advantage of having more then one spouse ( unless a guy is writing this then im sure they would say to be able to sleep with more then one women :) The reason i dont think it has advantages because the woman cant feel loved as being the "only one is that persons life" if i were in a family with more then one spouse i would feel like a peice of meat, i would feel like i was just an object of sex and pushed aside when the man got sick of me and he would just move on to the next women hes married to.
-Lyns
I think that it would be nice to have more than one wife at a time some times. If you ever got mad at one of your wives, you had another one that you could go to. How about if you ever wished to talk to another adult about a topic and take a vote of how to handle it? You wouldn't even have to leave your house or make a phone call! How about the fact that you got more helping hands when you are doing work around the house! This way you can have more kids and not get the one wife over-stressed. I think that the idea of polygamy is a good idea.
i personaly dont think its right to have more then one wife. It seems kind of sick to me. I could never picture myself sharing my man. I mean there may be some good things that would come from if but its just not for me. I think that Okonkwos relationship with his wife and his kids isnt the best. But i know deep down that he care. Sometimes people just have a hard time showing how they feel. I know my real dad hasnt ever been there for me, but when i need him he is always there. Maybe it would be different for him is he only had one wife.
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